Why do you think this thread has "Such little to do with this tribe" Antoine?
Is it perhaps because the animals here in question arent "Vegans"? dogs and cats are NATURAL Carnivors...or Ugh!.....Meat Eaters!
Posters in numbers have said it before within this Tribe:
EARTH FIRST isn't about Veganis'm. It's about MANY WAYS to save a dying Planet.

<Remember it will be my kids and their generation wiping your ass when you are a drooling vegetable in some rest home because you have no family to support you. :) >
as a side note, you assume I don't have a "get away from being a vegetable plan"....I actually will take an overdose of morphine before I become a vegetable. Or if I am already a vegetable, it's in my will. My husband must find a way to do it or I will come back to haunt him. ;)


<<I wish you people would actually THINK through what you think. I realize most of you rely only on a public school education, but that is what I had and I have been able to read and learn to think logically. It doesn't hurt, I swear. >>

I feel I have done a good job of this. I don't remember taking any class that taught me to be responsible for the earth and living creatures therein; luckily I was born with the inherent knowledge that it's my responsibility. Unfortunately most people in the world don't feel this way. As Antoine I believe said above (and I am not looking at the actual quote so this will be summarized, a skill I did learn in public school) too many people in this world feel that "if I didn't do it then I am not responsible for it". I don't throw trash out of my window, yet I feel responsible for picking it up. Not that anyone may ever make me, it's just a general responsibility to the world I live in. How can I possibly say anything should be better or could be better if I don't contribute to helping it be so? And where does that motivation come from? That's a whole other story. Could be that I've thought about what I think and I think about what I do.

<<Of course, the REALLY good news is that you are out of the gene pool. A definite gift to the Earth. Thank you>>

too bad I can't say the same for you. Just because I choose to live my life, not have children b/c I worry about who I will hang out with when I'm old or who will wipe my ass, does not mean I won't be contributing to future generations. What if I plan to be a teacher? I will reach thousands more kids than you could possibly create in a lifetime.


<<You are all for saving cats but you don't care about your own species? >>
never said that, just feel that I am a human that can stand up for animals that can't speak for themselves. that's my chosen mission.

<<Rescuing cats and wasting resources feeding them when they could easily feed themselves rather than rescuing human children and teaching them to respect their Mother and live in a conscious way is FAR more vile than having more children than someone thinks you should. >>
for me it's not a choice. i am responsible enough to know that 1) I don't have the resources to raise a single kid, not that I want to anyway 2) I want to further my career and work for animal rights, which I don't feel would leave much time in my life for raising a human being 3) i can have an affect on children around me and that I encounter in my life without having to raise them.

<<But you are planning on birthing a cat or dog? I didn't PLAN to have kids either. In fact, I was told that I could have children. LOL The best laid plans of Mice and Gwen . . . >>

nope, not planning on that either. there's already enough of those, just like there's more than enough children (and people as well) in the earth already.
Not planning to have children imo is one of the most irresponsible things a person can do. there are so many resources out there to help people not have children, and i would hope that anyone having them would at least have some kind of plan in mind concerning the entire upbringing of another human life.
told you could have children? who told you? your husband? god? public school? whoever it was must not have explained the consequences it has not only on your life, the child's life, the father's life, etc. but also on the world as a whole.

at least i am helping to solve a problem that already exists, not adding to it.

and i don't feed stray cats, i provide food, shelter, health care, happiness, comfort, and security to animals that otherwise would be wandering the street, euthanized, or who knows what else might have happened had they not been rescued. that's a lot more than just "feeding a stray cat".